Friday, February 20, 2009

WEEK 6B BLOG

Nadya Suleman gave birth to octuplets in Southern California. Afterwards, information began leaking out about this woman and the family such as the facts that she already had six children, is not married, does not have a job, is living on welfare, lives in the home of her mother, etc. It has also been reported that she had these children because she was "lonely" and actually used a fertility clinic to become pregnant (as it turns out, she had been rejected by clinics previously). Now, it looks as if she may be turning down assistance that has been offered...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/20/earlyshow/main4815110.shtml

Furthermore, they may end up losing their house...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,496169,00.html

Many people have publicly criticized her for many different things during this saga. What is your opinion on all of this? Is she irresponsible for making the decision to have these babies? Should this be any of the public's business at all? Should the government get involved in cases like this? (due 2/24)

47 comments:

  1. I think this woman has something wrong with her. She should not have had so many babies, especially since she cannot take care of them. Also, having so many kids the way she did could have had serious affects on all of the babies. Luckily, it didn't. I think that the government should only get involved if the babies and older children are not being taken care of. The clinic that allowed her to have so many children on purpose should be reprimanded.

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  2. I think she is mentally unstable. This women is so lonely, and she thinks the only way to fix this is to have more childeren. She already has 6 kids ages 2-7, and she is collecting disability checks for three of them. If she can't fulfill the needs of he six childeren, how will she ever be able to take care of her newborns. These babies are so fragile and they need a lot of medical care. I think the government should have been apart of this all along, a woman who is single and has 14 kids through in vitro is not the problem, its the fact she can't care for them.

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  3. I agree with Jessica, she was lucky there wasnt any serious defects on the babies. The only thing i disagree with is that the government should have been there all along. Someone who is physically lonely and is living with their parents shouldnt be able to go to get in vitro done. It said all but one clinic turned her down. I agree this clinic should get repremanded, because they probably didn't do an extensive background check on her.

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  4. I think this woman is ill. How can she be lonely when she has 6 other kids ages 2-7? I don't think it was very smart at all on her part to have eight more kids when shes on welfare, a single parent, living with her mom, doesn't have a job, and is not married. It has got to be hard taking care of so many kids being a single parent. I think that the government should have been a part of this all along. None of the clinics should have let her do this if they knew her situation.

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  5. I think its crazy that this woman decided to have even more kids when she didn't even have a job to support the ones she already had. It is truly irresponsible to bring children into this world if you cannot properly take care of them without the assitance of others. Although I think the public has the right to have an opinion on cases like this, the government should only get involved if it is proven that she is unfit to take care of them.

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  6. I agree with Anna. Taking care of 6 kids ages 2 to 7 requires so much time and energy that I cannot comprehend how she could possibly be lonely. The addition of eight more kids will only create more stress, not relieve her loneliness.

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  7. I think that this women does not deserve to be a parent. Anyone so irresponsible to have that many kids on purpose and can not afford them deserves their kids taken away from her. Through this she proves that these kids are doomed unless they can be taken into an environment to promote their developing minds. She should have found another way to relieve her loneliness having 14 kids is not a good excuse.

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  8. I agree with anna, having 6 to 7 kids and no way to afford it is just plan stupid. Their are ways to fix loneliness but when money becomes an issue that is a harder one to fix. She is a single parent, no job, and on welfare the last thing she needed was more kids. It just proves how irresponsible she is and how much of an unfit parent she is.

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  9. I think this woman is completely at fault and irresponsible for her actions. She knew what she was getting herself into, and she did it anyways. She had to know in her head that she was not financially or mentally stable to raise any more children. As if the 6 she had weren't enough, she was looking to have more. I don't understand this because with all of the issues she already had, she went through with making it harder on herself to raise another kid. I believe this is definitely the public and government's business because this lady had no right to have this kids when the environment she lives in is completely unstable. There need to be limits, and in order to create these limits, society must be aware of what's going on.

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  10. I agree with Kelsey. The problem isn't with fertility clinics, but the people who abuse the opportunity. This woman had no business having more children when she couldn't even take care of herself or the children she already had. It's her instability that proves the wrongness of the actions. Big families are often wonderful and a positive thing to have, but when you can't provide for them it can have an awful outcome. I think this lady has many psychological and mental problems and needs help.

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  11. I dont think we should even be hearing about this story. Do you know how many people have a ton of kids and cant afford to take care of them? There are a lot more then you think. People need to mind their own business. It's her life and her choices. If we do this to her, shouldn't we make a big deal out of other things? Let's make it nationaly known that a kid from Roncalli stole a water bottle. I think we need to stay out of this.

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  12. I disagree with Buck Money. Once again I think that we should not even be hearing this story. There are so many stories like this. They just arent brought to light. I think we should just let this lady live her life.

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  13. How stupid do the people at the clinic have to be in order to grant this woman access to their services????? They obviously are not looking out for her well-being or the well-being of the children. She's been denied from several clinics in the past, so why doesn't she get the message "DON'T GET PREGO"?

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  14. Mallory, the clinics ARE at fault here. You can't just grant access to anyone who wants to have a kid. It is the responsibility of the clinic to say NO when someone is behaving erradically. If fertility clinics don't start denying people who can't afford to have more kids, we need to start denying fertility clinics funding.

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  15. There is obviously something mentally unstable about this woman. It seems, if she was turned down by other fertility clinics, that the clinic she actually went to was trying to make a quick buck off of her situation. I don't necessarily understand why you would want to have 8 children, just because you're "lonely", but hey, different strokes for different folks. However, I don't believe that Nadya Suleman should have custody of her children if she cannot afford to provide for all 14 of them, without government assitance. If one is to make the decision to have that many children, especially when Suleman went SEARCHING for the opportunity, he or she should have to bear the consequences solo, and not be a burden on our tax dollars, just because she can't afford to take care of her problem.

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  16. I completely agree with Mallory. Big families are a blessing and sometimes wonderful to have. However, when people are abusing the priviledge of having children, just so they can claim more welfare each month, there needs to be a point where enough is enough. We need to stop providing for these families indefinately, and set a REAL limit on how long they're recieving government aid. It makes me sick to think that these children will never have a "normal home" when they deserve nothing but the best... instead they got dealt a shotty hand with an unbalanced mother and an obscene amount of media coverage.

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  17. i agree with claire on some level. Having kids is a blessing, but if you have six kids already, and you have no job, and also living on welfare, you need no more kids. Some one like that cant take care of them and fit their needs. I believe that if she had to get pregnant, that she did the right thing by having the babies. To me abortiion just or is not an option. I think that the woman needs to clean up her act and get a job. If she doesnt do that, then the government needs to step in

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  18. I think that this is an irresponsible act on her part. Not only is she making life extremely hard for herself, but she is making life very difficult for her 14 children. They did not ask to be a part of such a large family with all of the obstacles they now have to face. However, I do not think that this is a matter for the public. They should not publicly criticize her for her decisions. Also, there are many single moms across the nation with many children that they cannot afford to support. The only reason her case is getting the special attention that it is is because she happens to have a set of octuplets.

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  19. I agree with Jenny. This woman is completely irresponsible and her actions cannot be excused. However, I also agree that the government should only get involved once it is clear that she is incapable of taking proper care of her children. Moreover, I agree that the in vitro clinic should be reprimanded not necessarily just because of the number of children they allowed but because of the health risks they put both the woman and all eight of her babies at. This was completely irresponsible of them and they should be punished for their actions.

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  20. What kind of mind set would you have to possess inorder to even think that you were "lonely" with six young children? If you believe you're so lonely as of now with these children, what kind of difference would it make if you brought eight more babies into the picture? I think that Nadya Sulemen is completely irresponsible with her only way to provide for large family is through the support of welfair. You knew the responsibilites of having one child, but FOURTEEN? She needs to start facing her problems and get a job to ensure her children the best life possible. If she can't fulfill her obligations, then the government needs to step in for the sake of the kids well being.

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  21. In response to Briana, I agree with the fact of Nadya Sulemen was being completely irresponsible and has no apparent excuse for her actions. I also agree with how the clinic should be reprimanded for allowing Nadya to even concieve eight children, and the endangerment of both the babies and mother herself in this beyond high risk pregnancy. I think Nadya should've just stopped after six children and learned other ways to distract her loneliness inorder to prevent all this harsh media coverage on her young family.

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  22. I think this lady is messed up. She is lonely, lives with her mom and has no job to support her family. She keeps having more kids to get more money. But she cannot even support the ones she already had. The fertility programs denying her, shows that they really don’t think she should have the kids either. I don’t think the public’s opinion really matters to her; she is going to do whatever she wants.

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  23. I agree with Briana, she is not only affecting her life, she is affecting her mom’s life and the fourteen kid’s life also. She shouldn’t be criticized for her lifestyle; she is one of many single moms across the nation. This situation wouldn’t be that big of a deal except for the fact that she lives off the states money, she has no steady income.

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  24. Its not right to have kids because you are lonely. She probably has a mental issue because no sensible person would have 14 kids and not try to get a job to keep a house. She is not being responsible.

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  25. I agree with Jessica because there are great chances the kids could develop defects. Its not normal to have 8 kids at once. She is also lucky that she was not hurt in the process.

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  26. I agree with Mallory. She was fully aware of what she was doing, even if she is mentally unstable. She should be held responsible.

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  27. I think it was completely irresponsible what Nadya Sulemen did. There is something with someone who already had six children and still felt lonely enough to want more. I believe the public should be involved because these children need some help. Their mother can't support them and people need to realize what's going on. She's on welfare, a single parent, living with her mom, doesn't have a job, and is not married. The government at some point should step in if she continues to be an unfit mother for these children.

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  28. I agree with Hallie. I think the clinic should have realized this woman was unfit to have more children and should haven't allowed her to conceive more. Her actions affects all her children's lives. Her and all her family are now getting negative media attention. This will greatly affect the children's lives which is unfair and wrong.

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  29. I think that she is crazy for wanting all these kids. She might have been lonely but I think six kids should cure that. I think she is very irresponsible. Women should only have kids when she is ready for them. If she is living on her own. I think it is morally wrong to use a fertility clinic. We shouldn't play God. Everything He does turn out for a reason. God’s reason for not giving her another child naturally is because she doesn't need another one.

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  30. I disagree with Brianna. It is the public’s business because she’s the one putting herself out there. I think she likes to be in the spotlight. If she didn't, she wouldn't be on the cover of any magazines and she wouldn't be speaking out. The government should get involved because it’s going to take a lot of our tax money to pay for these kids.

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  31. I agree with mallory. It was irresponsible on her part to have 8 more kids when she already has 6! She had to of known what she was getting herself into before she even did it! She wasn't financially or mentally stable enough to care fore 8 more children on top of her 6.

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  32. I believe that it was a bad decision for her to hav the kids. Thoes kids deserve a good home and a mother that has a job. She had no reson to even have more kids because she was in no place to have kids right now

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  33. i think that it is stupid that this is in news because it is a story that happens all the time. if we make a big deal out of this we should just make a big deal out of every body that has more than eight kids. it is not our business how many kids she has. it should be the business but the people that pay taxes there because they will be paying for it.

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  34. I agree with Anna, it was irresponsible of her to have more kids when she can barley take care of the ones she has now. She had no reason to have more kids. She should relieze that she cant give thoes kids a good home.

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  35. i agree with blake he makes very good points. he is very right that it is not anyones business but hers. i think that it is stupid that there is nothing better to do then post stupid storys. there are better storys they could talk about then ladys kids.

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  36. I think it was irresponsible for the woman to have so many kids at once. I think the government should step in and take the kids away until she is back on her two feet. The children should be given to a family that will love and take care of them.

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  37. I agree with Austin that woman had no business having all those kids at once. She is on wellfare and was in no position to have more kids. The kids deserve a stable enviroment where they are loved and tooken care of.

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  38. I dont know if it was such a bad thing because she wanted to have one baby not six the first time. The same thing goes fo rhte second as well, she wantedtohave one but because of fertilization she bore eight instead.

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  39. At the same time it was irresponsible of her to do this because she saw the sideaffects of what happened the first time, because if she were to have that many before she was bound the same or even more. I agree with Elias.

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  40. I think that it was a big mistake for this woman to have all of those kids. I think this because she is not in the right state of mind to be able to care for these children. From watching all of the evidence, there is clearly something wrong with this woman and to give her control of that many children is not right.

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  41. I agree with Elias. I think the kids should be taken from her because they will not be cared for like they should with this woman. I also believe the government should step in to prevent anything worse from occuring.

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  42. I think it is ridiculous for to have this many kids in her situation. It is irresponsible and selfish. There is now way she can raise this many kids on her own and must rely on others for help. This is unfair for the kids and the parents. I think the public should be involved by helping the mother for the kids' sake. I dont however think the government should be involved because it is her choice to have this many kids.

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  43. I agree with Brittany that she is messed up for having more kids to recieve more money. She isnt the only person doing this however. Many people dont want to work and live on the government money and the easiest way to do this is to have more kids. The money is spent on other things besides the kids. Luckily in this case the kids will recieve alot of help from the public because this is such a big deal.

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  44. I think that this woman has lost her mind and should be checked into a mental hospital. No one in their right mind has 8 more kids when shey can't even support the first 6. There are no excusses for these situtation. She needs to grow up and relizes that there are lives that she has to take care of, she's not 6 years old playing house anymore.

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  45. I agree with Anna and MAllory it was irresponcible for her to have more kids. She already had 6.

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  46. In this case I think she is irresponsible for having these babies. If she can't afford to move out on her own, let alone with six babies, then why have more. She knows she is going to have a tough time supporting her kids so why reject the people offering to help. She doesn't even have a job, so she is relying on her mom to help keep up with the babies.

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  47. I agree with Elias. The government should step in and take the babies until she can prove that she can take care of herself. The children should be placed with a loving family that will support all the children's needs.

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